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Posted: Monday, 19 May 2008 5:26PM

NH jury hears more tapes in LaBarre insanity case



Brentwood, N.H. (AP)  -- Jurors on Monday heard more tape recordings of admitted killer Sheila LaBarre questioning one of her victims.

The Rockingham County Superior Court jury also heard more from forensic psychologist Malcolm Rogers, who has said the tapes LaBarre made show she was insane, as she claims, when she killed two boyfriends in Epping.

On Monday, he testified that the hours of tape recordings show there is evidence that LaBarre believed the many accusations she made against the people in her life, including the two men she's admitted killing: Kenneth Countie and Michael Deloge.

On recordings played for the jury Monday, LaBarre interviews Countie as if taking a legal deposition. 

LaBarre accuses Countie's mother, Carolynn Lodge, of sexually abusing her son and a young girl.

Countie can be heard clearly answering yes to LaBarre's questions and says he hates his mother and wants his family to leave him alone.

Rogers said LaBarre's thoughts are her attempts to project her personal experience with sexual abuse as a child onto other people. 

He said the thoughts, feelings of paranoia and irrational accusations are symptoms of mental illness.

After LaBarre's arrest, police found almost 1,000 hours of tape recordings she made. 

Throughout the trial, the defense has played many tapes that focused on conversations she had with Deloge and Countie.

Rogers testified that he doesn't believe Countie was buying into LaBarre's allegations, but was simply playing along to appease her.

"It's pretty clear Mr. Countie is just passively repeating what she has really pushed him into doing," said Rogers. "Whether this is conscious or not, this is an effort to alienate Mr. Countie from his mother."

But he testified he believes LaBarre did believe what she was saying.

"As I hear this tape, I consider the possibility that Ms. LaBarre doesn't believe anything she says, she's just making this up for the purpose of dominating and subjecting the individual to her own abuse," he said. "I just don't think that's possible.

"Fundamentally, what is significant is Ms. LaBarre acts on the basis of her delusional beliefs. 

It's one of the ways you can determine if someone believes (the delusion) in a real way or if they don't," Rogers said.

Rogers pointed to LaBarre's attempt to give Countie a polygraf test about these sexually graphic delusions.

In a statement from their attorney last week, the Countie and Lodge families denied all of LaBarre's allegations regarding Kenneth Countie.
  

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